Deepak Chopra: Manifest Abundance | E172

Deepak Chopra: Manifest Abundance | E172

Human beings are constantly striving for more. We measure success through money and material possessions, which ultimately leave us unfulfilled and empty. International bestselling author and a world-renowned authority on integrative medicine and personal transformation, Deepak Chopra, MD, FACP believes that there is an inner path to prosperity and abundance where humans can transcend feelings of fear, possession, and self-imposed limitations. In this episode, Hala and Deepak yap about how to achieve abundance in all aspects of life, the life-changing power of meditation, the history of money, misconceptions surrounding karma, good money and bad money karma, and the Law of Attention and The Law of Intention.  

Topics Include: 

– How meditation changed his life

– Deepak’s contribution to alternative medication 

– Deepak’s philosophy on evolution

– Defining the dark night of the soul 

– The history of money

– Defining abundance 

– How to find out what our soul’s purpose is 

– Abundance life models 

– The eight limbs of yoga

– What is Ikigai?

– Misconceptions surrounding karma

– Good vs bad money karma 

– The Law of Attention and The Law of Intention 

– Entropy and creative intelligence 

– The seven Chakras and Tantra, Yantra, and Mantra  

– Deepak’s actionable advice 

– Deepak’s secret to profiting in life

– Deepak’s advice for immigrants  

– And other topics…

Deepak Chopra, MD, FACP is a world-renowned pioneer in integrative medicine and personal transformation, the author of over 90 books translated into over forty-three languages, including numerous New York Times bestsellers, including his most recent book, Abundance: The Inner Path to Wealth.  

He is the founder of The Chopra Foundation, a non-profit entity for research on well-being and humanitarianism, and Chopra Global, a modern-day health company at the intersection of science and spirituality. 

Deepak is also an Adjunct Professor of Urology at Mount Sinai, Professor of Internal Medicine at the University of Central Florida, Clinical Professor of Family Medicine and Public Health at the University of California, San Diego and serves as a senior scientist with Gallup Organization. Deepak has also hosted several podcasts including Now for Tomorrow, Infinite Potential, and Daily Breath. His new podcast, Deepak Chopra’s Mind-Body Zone: Living Outside the Box will launch in Fall 2022. TIME magazine has described Deepak as “one of the top 100 heroes and icons of the century.”

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Resources Mentioned:

Deepak’s Website: ​​https://www.deepakchopra.com/ 

Deepak’s Books: https://www.amazon.com/Deepak-Chopra/e/B004KNMPSI/ 

The Never Alone Foundation: https://neveralone.love/ 

Deepak’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/DeepakChopra 

Deepak’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/DeepakChopra 

Deepak’s YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/thechoprawell 

Deepak’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deepakchopra/

Deepak’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/deepak-chopra-md-official-04017621/ 

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[00:00:00] Hala: Hey, Deepak, welcome to young and profiting podcast. 

[00:00:04] Deepak: Privileged to be here. 

[00:00:05] Hala: It is such an honor to have you on the show today for everybody who is tuning in on YouTube, you may notice that I'm not in my studio. That's because I'm live here at podcast movement because when Deepak chauffeur has time to come on your show, you make time for Deepak Chopra, no matter what's going on.

[00:00:20] Hala: So Deepak, you are a household name. I'm sure everybody listening has heard of her name, but Justin. You're a prominent figure in the new age movement. You're world renowned speaker. You're a founder of the Chopra foundation. You're a licensed physician and author of over 90 bucks. 

[00:00:35] Hala: But today we're going to primarily focus on your book, abundance, the inner path to wealth, because that's the perfect topic for my young and profits. Does that sound good? That's great. at one point in your adult, You were drinking black coffee by the hour, you were smoking a pack of cigarettes a day and you actually turn to meditation to stop those bad habits.

[00:00:54] Hala: Can you tell us that story in your own words and how meditation changes? 

[00:00:58] Deepak: Yeah, actually, I [00:01:00] was a practicing physician and I was also studying neuroendocrinology, which is the study of brain chemicals and hormones. I was teaching at Harvard, Tufts and BU uh, junior faculty. Medical students and doing some research.

[00:01:16] Deepak: And in those days we were looking at what we call the molecules of emotion, which everybody knows about right now, so that I don't end up. I mean, oxytocin opiates are Nanda made and many others. These were in the brain, the end of these models. And they were for the first time we realized the interface between what happens in our consciousness and what happens in our brain.

[00:01:40] Deepak: What happens in our biology turned out that these molecules were also immunomodulators the modulating, the effects of the immune system. Fine tune the immune cell. So that was my interest actually in mind-body medicine and meditation. Yes, I was stressed. I was smoking and cigarettes and drinking [00:02:00] alcohol, uh, on weekends sometimes to access.

[00:02:04] Deepak: And one day I, um, had, uh, put a pacemaker in a patient, put him on a ventilator in a house. Then I went outside and smoked a cigarette when I felt disgusted. So I threw the cigarette and I changed my lifestyle meditation. M a, is the result of a chance meeting with a friend who suggested that I should. And then I got involved in a meditation as a way to not only look at managing stress, but a deeper understanding of what we call consciousness or spirit or awareness, the same thing, and that it was going beyond body mind medicine.

 

[00:02:48] Hala: So what was so innovative about what you were doing back then in terms of alternative medicine? 

[00:02:53] Deepak: I was challenging mainstream medicine, which is based on in science. We call it [00:03:00] reductionism, which looks at body parts, and then you try to understand how disease occurs.

[00:03:06] Deepak: So you try to understand how bacteria multiply and then you interfere with that with antibiotic. Oh, you try to understand how cancer cells replicate and you interfere with that with chemotherapy or radiation. And it works, right. It works. It's very effective in acute illness. So if you have pneumonia, you need an antibiotic.

[00:03:25] Deepak: No question about it. Meditation is not going to help you clear pneumonia, or if you have a brain discitis, you need surgery. Not. But then there's chronic illness and chronic illness means things like diabetes, hypertension, cardiovascular disease. Chronic diseases of all kinds. Auto-immune illnesses, many types of cancer, premature aging, that we are not successful with drugs or pharmaceuticals.

[00:03:54] Deepak: So for that, you need to look at more than the physical body and look at the mind social [00:04:00] interactions, professional interactions. You have to look at deeper. Level of reality called awareness or consciousness or spirit. You have to look at the environment. You have to look at personal relationships and much more sleep, stress management, mind, body coordination, vegal stimulation, biological rhythms.

[00:04:23] Deepak: So the word help comes from the word whole. So holistic means including everything. And that was not passionate about. But now it is every medical student is exposed to it. I teach at three university hospitals and everybody now teaches what was then considered a non-mainstream. But now it's not it's, it's pretty much.

[00:04:47] Hala: Yeah, totally. 100%. So one of your key philosophies that I think that is really important for this discussion is your philosophy on evolution. And you say that consciousness not necessarily Darwinism [00:05:00] or survival of the fittest really was responsible for the evolution of humans or there's more to it. So I'd love to hear your perspective.

[00:05:07] Deepak: What I say is very controversial. It's very few people who actually subscribe to what I'm saying. So classical Darwinian theory holds that evolution is the result of, um, what I call random mutations. You have to be very precise when you describe this word random. Everyone knows what mutation is. We're seeing mutations every day with COVID.

[00:05:32] Deepak: So a mutation has a genetic basis. Where the alphabet dispels the gene, something is missing or something is extra.

[00:05:42] Deepak: Life has four letters and how they spell out words, we call them genes.

[00:05:49] Deepak: And so we share the same alphabet from mosquitoes to trees, to everything, rodents, chimpanzees, gorillas, and humans. The difference [00:06:00] between a gorilla or a chimpanzee and a human is less than 2% in terms of genes, 65% of the genes that you have in your body at the same as a banana 80%, the same as. Um, about 70% is a fruit fly.

[00:06:15] Deepak: And yet you still have the same alphabet. It's just, the spelling is different. So when we say random mutations, we should be saying unpredictable random means inherently random, unpredictable beans. We don't know what's going on. It's like going to grand central station and you have lots of people going out.

[00:06:35] Deepak: It looks random, but then when you look deeply, you, so, so many people are going to Philadelphia, so many you're going to New York. So each one is going somewhere with purpose. Not randomly, it appears random to us. So first of all, random is not a good word. It should be unpredictable. Natural selection is a good word.

[00:06:55] Deepak: It means that those genes, that's a wave to start [00:07:00] to dominate. And that's the current Darwinian theory and it's called the evolution of species, not the evolution of life. Nobody knows how life works. Evolution of species means. How did bacteria become plants, become animals. Rodents become primates became humans.

[00:07:18] Deepak: And so current theories that somehow that happened, and we are at the top of the food chain. Now, as a result of that, it there's a school of thought that says that probably could not be true. It's too precise and all of that. There are leaps in. Um, there are gaps, you know, the difference between a chimpanzee and a human is only less than 2%, but chimpanzees don't read Shakespeare.

[00:07:46] Deepak: They don't send people to the moon. They don't design computers or talk on zoom. They don't have existential. It shows like, who am I, what do I want? What happens after death is two different? So [00:08:00] there's a school of thought that, and that actually even Dr. Francis Collins, who is the head of the NIH and was responsible for the genome project, he calls it theistic evolution that somehow our being has something to do it.

[00:08:15] Deepak: I don't like the word theistic because you know, again, scientists are allergic to God, so we don't use that word. But consciousness or awareness as an organizing principle, some people are not allergic to that. So preset consciousness probably guides evolution. Nobody's actually seen evolution happening solid from the fossil record.

[00:08:37] Deepak: And so whatever we say is based on circumstantial level. I believe that humans now physically are probably not evolving, but they are evolving in consciousness, in creativity and imagination in creating artificial or augmented intelligence and creating, um, metal versus in [00:09:00] creating a 3d reality. So there is something going on, humans are evolving and this is possible as they evolve in consciousness, biology may fall.

[00:09:13] Hala: Yeah, 

[00:09:13] Hala: Something that stuck out to me in your book was when you said that animals don't really consider like happiness, like they're happy on their own. Mostly whereas humans it's like we have problems being happy. Can you talk about. 

[00:09:28] Deepak: Yeah. We even have an, uh, constitution, the pursuit of happiness, which implies we are miserable automatically.

[00:09:34] Deepak: Happiness is the opposite of sadness. You can't have one without the other. There's something has called. Which is a, you see it in a baby, in a child full of wonder, curiosity, love, compassion, empathy, the whole works. But as we grew up, we are bamboozled or conditioned by social constructs, and that makes us happy.

[00:09:57] Deepak: We also have existential dilemmas. Like at some [00:10:00] point we start no matter who you are, you could be intoxicated with the biology of youth, but one day you're going to get old one day. You're going to have information. And one day you going to die. So that leads humans to us, existentially dilemmas, not that they know the answers, but they ask also humans are victimized by memory and also by imagination.

[00:10:25] Deepak: So if you kick a dog, the dog will remember, and if you beat the dog five years later, it might attack you. But unlike a human being, it won't plan for five years, how to get even, we are a species full of contradiction paradise. Ambiguity and existential conundrums, including what is called the dark night of the soul, the 

[00:10:48] Hala: dark night of the soul.

[00:10:50] Hala: What's that, 

[00:10:51] Deepak: that is when you realize that you don't have an identity that we all think, you know, I am Deepak shopper. You think Uh, you know, we, if you say I have [00:11:00] a body, then you have a problem. Which body are you talking about? Fertilized, ovum, zygote, embryo, baby toddler, teenager, young adult or person all the way to dusty death.

[00:11:13] Deepak: So what we call a body is not a noun. It's a verb that you can grasp it. Similarly, your mind, you say I'm a mind, which one teenagers, mind and emotionally. Undeveloped mind at eight years, which qualifies you to run for president, but nothing else, 

 If you're emotional and develop, run for president, that's the only thing that you qualified for.

[00:11:40] Deepak: But the point is that human beings. There's no such thing as an identity, it's all a false construct. So documenters, the soul is your lies. You don't have an identity. There's nothing permanent about to period. Not your mind, not your emotions, not your personality, [00:12:00] not your body. So when you go through that period of spiritual experience is part of the spiritual experience.

[00:12:08] Deepak: Then you get what are called the heebie-jeebies. You realize you don't exist. As a person. So what do you exist as that's the big, you know, spiritual quest, dark night of the soul, Jesus Christ went to through it. St. John of the cross went to it. Anybody who pursues the, uh, a spiritual request will go through the dark night of the soul and it's like torture.

[00:12:33] Deepak: But then if you cross over then there's what is called ecstasy because you find that you're actually God pretending to be a human being. 

[00:12:42] Hala: Very fascinating 

[00:12:44] Deepak: as, as rammed does read spiritual teacher used to say, we're all God in drag. I love 

[00:12:52] Hala: that.  

[00:12:53] Hala: I would love to talk about abundance and start to understand your perspective on the inner path to.[00:13:00] starting with the history of money, because money you say is from consciousness as well. Right? No other animals are using money for tools or resources or whatever it is. So talk to us about the history of 

[00:13:14] Deepak: money.

[00:13:15] Deepak: So Alpine until 40,000 years ago, there were about eight different kinds of humans because it says homosapien. Which means the wise one. So we were humbled enough to call us as Weiss. Then we gave other species names like Neanderthals and homo fluoro answers on and on. So species mates only within its own kind, just like you, the lion species of the feline species, you include cats and Panthers and tigers and cheetahs.

[00:13:49] Deepak: And lions, they're all family, but they're different species. So like that there were about eight or so human species and they all had a [00:14:00] language for what we call mating reproduction sex and the language. That's it, this is how we survive. This is the language that all other animals have, you know, buds, every fishes as language.

[00:14:16] Deepak: Then one species, the us, we created a language for telling stories. We are the only species that tells stories with that. We created stories like money, like colonial states, like empires, like latitude, longitude, like Greenwich beans. And so on. And we created money because before that, I'll give you a haircut and you fix my shoes and that became too inconvenient.

[00:14:42] Deepak: So we said, okay, I'll give you the shell. And this means so much, or the stone means so much. And then that too was in Canadian. So. Coins and money on paper, but money is a human story for high belief exchange of values, [00:15:00] whatever values you have, you exchange them. And that's what we call money, the exchange or currency currency for exchanging values.

[00:15:08] Deepak: So if your values, the pornography or, um, Or whatever I call it tobacco. You can make money. You can just go to Las Vegas and hang out with people like that. And you'll make money. If your values are movies, then you make money hanging out with people who make movies, et cetera. If your values are health and consciousness, which are mine, then you make money with people who have the same values.

[00:15:35] Deepak: That's why the book right in the beginning, I have something called a soul profile. When you fill that in what your soul. Yup. Deeper values. It's not your bio, which is on LinkedIn and your buyers. What other people think of you? Your soul profile tells you what your values are. And then if you create a community of people who have the same values, you can make a lot of money with those.[00:16:00] 

[00:16:00] Deepak: That's exchange. 

[00:16:01] Deepak: That's why we call it exchange. And so that is only about money now. Abundance is not just money. Abundance is fulfillment at many levels. So I wrote the book actually, after I heard a lyric from Bob Marley. Some people are so poor. All they have is money. And then I did research on people who have lots of money on people who have no money.

[00:16:23] Deepak: And I found that the same because they think only about money, the poor can't think of anything else. And the rich, it becomes their identity. They confuse self-worth with net-worth. Yeah. I like to say they confuse their selfie with their. So they sacrifice their self for their selfie. They think their selfie is what they are, you know, wealth and abundance is much more than money.

[00:16:49] Deepak: Money has about 12% of joy and happiness to your life. So if you win the lottery, you'll be ecstatic for six months, then you plateau and [00:17:00] then you'll be back to your baseline, which is what you were before you won the lottery. Five years later, you might be more miserable because you're trying to ID them.

[00:17:09] Deepak: In The Bahamas or becoming an oligarch or something like that. So it becomes a source of stress. You need abundance at many levels. So security. If you have money, you don't necessarily have security and safety because I know a lot of people who don't feel secure, they have billions of dollars essentially.

[00:17:32] Deepak: You can buy sensual delight, which means enjoyment of the five senses by money. You have to be mindful. You don't buy self-esteem by money. You don't buy true love by money. Mary can simulate. Somebody can marry you for your money and they hope you die soon so they can inherit them. You can buy creative expression, insight, intuition, imagination, higher consciousness.

[00:17:59] Deepak: You can't lose [00:18:00] the fear of death by buying money, um, by, by money. So abundance means all of the above, including, um, the loss of the fear of death, which only comes through identifying with your true self or your soul, which has nothing to do with the amount of money. You can buy joy with money either.

[00:18:21] Hala: Money does not buy happiness as the old saying goes. So since you brought up the soul's purpose, I know that in your book, you give a couple of questions that we can ask ourselves. What's a way that we can find out what our soul's purpose 

[00:18:36] Deepak: is. Well, it's in the book, you know, you have to identify your peak experience.

[00:18:43] Deepak: What's your purpose in life is if you had all the money in the world all the time in the world, what would you do? How would you stop? Uh, what is your contribution to your family, to the world, to society? Who are your heroes, heroines in history, mythology, [00:19:00] religion, business. What are you? Unique talents. How do you express them?

[00:19:04] Deepak: Who benefits? What do you value in a relationship? What do you give? What do you receive on and on when you fill that out, you know who you are, otherwise we can check out LinkedIn for you. 

[00:19:16] Hala: Yes. And I'll definitely stick the link to your book in the show notes. So everybody can check that out. He's got lots of quizzes and stuff, and it's very interactive.

[00:19:25] Hala: It's a great book. So let's talk about abundance life models. So India and Japan are two countries that have abundance life models that are popular yoga and icky guy. So I'd love for you to break down. What you'll get is a lot of people think yoga is just exercise. That's really not all it's about. And, uh, Thank you guys as 

[00:19:46] Deepak: well.

[00:19:47] Deepak: Are you guys similar to yoga? Yoga is more expensive. So your guy has eight limbs. Yoga means union with your true self, which is the divine in you. So yoga [00:20:00] has eight limbs and these eight limbs are rules. First two are have to do with, uh, what we call social and emotional intelligence that they're called Yama and Yama.

[00:20:11] Deepak: That third is the yoga that you go to. You know, yoga studios for, but even there, you, it's not an exercise. Each posture is a seat of awareness. So when you do happy, baby, you should feel like a happy baby. If you do it properly, or you do a catcall, you assume the, not only the posture of a cat goal, but you get the feeling, the consciousness of that.

[00:20:39] Deepak: The yoga postures are called yoga. Asanas us now means seat of awareness. Then you have breathing techniques called Pratyahara. There are hundreds of them, and you can modulate your breath to bring about any effect in your body, including increased energy, decreased energy, and shift energy in all kinds of ways.

[00:20:59] Deepak: That's [00:21:00] called . And then there's something called Pratyahara, which is withdrawal of the center. Learning to regulate the internal organs of your body, heart rate, blood pressure immune system, endocrine system, microbiome, et cetera. And then there are the last three steps that Dion meditation, the hard-on focus awareness and samadhi transcendence.

[00:21:23] Deepak: So these are the eight limbs of yoga, and most people only done one and that too, not adequately because they just think it's exercise Austria. I'm writing a book down on what yoga really is. Yoga means union it's derived from the word usage is the same as the English word yoke. So when Jesus says my yoke is easy and my burden is light, that's the yoga because he feels connected to the source of all experience.

[00:21:53] Hala: I never realized how interesting yoga was and how much there was to it. And so you really opened my [00:22:00] eyes and I'm super excited to like, learn more about shakras and how did you mantras? And we'll get into that in a little bit, but it really is exciting stuff. And I think my listeners, you guys should really go pick up that book cause it's really.

[00:22:12] Hala: So icky guy. I think this is super important in terms of finding a career that really aligns with our purpose and makes us fulfilled. So I'd love for you to explain that as well. 

[00:22:23] Deepak: You guys seem as Dharma folio blessed. So you express your unique talents. It's not work. It's like play. When you express your unique talents, you lose track of time as well.

[00:22:36] Deepak: And you have a lot of joy. Eeky guys falling. You're blessed the same way as. 

And then you act from that level, not from mine, but from the level of your source. And that's why, and knowing your Dharma is very important that we do go through that in the book, you know, the, all the ways you can figure out what your purpose [00:23:00] is, how to follow your bliss, which is what Joseph Campbell spoke about.

[00:23:05] Deepak: But he didn't say, how do you do it? So it's here in the book. Yes. 

[00:23:09] Hala: Okay. So another term that I feel like a lot of people know is karma, but they get it wrong. So what are the misconceptions of karma that people. 

[00:23:18] Deepak: So karma simply means past experience and did not turn any past experience, but interpretational plastics.

[00:23:28] Deepak: It's your personal story about life. So if you close your eyes and do nothing, you'll immediately becoming aware that you're having a conversation with yourself, who is it? That's having the conversation with yourself. It's your conditioned mind. And that conversation is always about good and bad things.

[00:23:47] Deepak: So if you're having a conversation about past experiences that were happy, then your body feels good. remembering past experiences that you thought were unhappy and your body [00:24:00] feels unpleasant. That goes on and on. You know, you can't have good without the bad. You have to have both, uh, by contrast, just like you can't have up without down or hot without cold goal of life is not to get good karma.

[00:24:16] Deepak: The goal of life is to be independent of. And that is beyond the physical bodies called the karmic body or the conceptual body, because there's no such thing as a physical fixed body, as we just said. So the conceptual karmic body is what recycles as the soul or the conditioned mind. If you go beyond that, there's something called the bliss body and that bliss.

[00:24:42] Deepak: It's independent of all your stories, positive or negative. And that comes through meditation through mindfulness, through inquiry, through self-reflection through awareness of the body awareness of the breath awareness of internal organs, awareness, [00:25:00] relationships, awareness of your social and professional interactions.

[00:25:05] Deepak: Awareness of the ecosystem and awareness of your relationship to the universe that's karma. Um, 

[00:25:14] Hala: so since this is young and profiting podcasts, we've got a lot of young professionals that are trying to grow their wealth and their entrepreneurs, and they care about money. So let's talk about good versus bad money karma.

[00:25:28] Hala: What does that look like? 

[00:25:29] Deepak: Well, right now, Putin has bad karma. And this one never loses an address. So he's going to pay for it. Some idea that bad karma simply means the choices you made were harmful and destructive to both yourself and to others. That's not good money. It's contaminated money and karma never loses an address.

[00:25:53] Deepak: You will. If you come back to you and then good karma money, as far as it's coming from. [00:26:00] What we call love in action. Love without action is irrelevant. Action without love is meaningless, but when you have love in action, we call it karma, yoga and karma. Yoga is the best way to make money. 

[00:26:14] Hala: I love that. So we can't just sit here and have a great mindset.

[00:26:18] Hala: We also have to do something. If we want to get money, we have to have intention. So can you talk to us about the law of attention and the law of intention and how they interact? 

[00:26:28] Deepak: So a spirit or a consciousness, does it work through rational logic? It just works through attention. Attention means where you're putting your energy.

[00:26:39] Deepak: So right now, please put your energy on your toes. Did you do that?

[00:26:47] Deepak: Todd put your attention there. Awareness there. That's called attention now. Wiggle. Your choice. That's intensive. So attention is putting your awareness somewhere. [00:27:00] Intention is action. And when you combine the two and not just those, you can do that with space. You can do that with consciousness. You can do that with your own infinite being, then intention organizes its own fulfillment.

[00:27:18] Deepak: I also call it the law of least effort do less than accomplish. And ultimately do nothing and accomplish everything. So your very presence creates wealth. If you don't have. 

[00:27:29] Hala: . So for me, one of my favorite parts of your book was you had a bell diagram and it was on the human condition. And basically yoga teaches that human consciousness is pulled in different directions by the same forces order in chaos.

[00:27:43] Hala: So the left side of the bell curve is entropy. So that's habit inertia, unconscious behavior. The right side is creative intelligence, creative intelligence was something I never heard of. And I. Very very useful to everyone. And I feel like my listeners are going to love this. So can you explain [00:28:00] entropy and creative intelligence and the spectrum that everyone is on and 

[00:28:05] Deepak: should be is something that follows the arrow of time.

[00:28:09] Deepak: It's the dissipation of heat to the, what is called endpoint is the heat death of absolute. Everything disappears and that's, what's going to happen to the universe. One day it'll disappear into a black hole and that's all the singularity. That's the end of it. Trippy. But aging is entropy. Also the opposite of entropy is creative intelligence.

[00:28:32] Deepak: And it is not linear. So you have to ask yourself, how does a human body think thoughts play a piano, kill germs, remove toxins, and make a baby all at the same time. You know, there's no logical way, linear way that you can do all this. Your mind can not multitask. It can only do one thing at a time. In fact, it never multitask.

[00:28:54] Deepak: That's a myth. When you do one, you think you're doing many things at the same time. You're switching [00:29:00] from one to the other, very rapid. And actually you're doing neither and you're, you're messing up your brain networks. Creative intelligence is basically doing an almost infinite number of things all at the same time and correlating them with each other, your body functions like that.

[00:29:18] Deepak: Your cells, your stomach says your heart cells, your kidney cells, your brain cells, all work in coordinating. Without even sending messages to each other. So creative intelligence has non-local it doesn't imply space-time. It is the inherent intelligence of the universe. And it is, you have to go beyond your rational mind.

[00:29:41] Deepak: That's where meditation comes in. The seven chakras are simply seven junction points between consciousness and biology. So the lower chakra has have to do with survival and safety, with sexuality and sensuality with, uh, ambition and making money and [00:30:00] transformation. But then those are important chakras, all of them, because we need that for, for our survival, but then there's love and there's belongingness.

[00:30:09] Deepak: And then there's creative expression. There's intuition. There is higher consciousness and there is transcending. The chakra methodology in the book is very ancient practice. It comes from what is called in the west. It's called tantra, which is misunderstood because most people think tantra is sexual practices.

[00:30:31] Deepak: And that is one aspect of Sandra. And it's not the right name, even it's called tantra in Sanskrit. And there are three practices that go with tantra called tantra yantra and mantra. So tantra is the rich. And in the book you have these ritual seven, seven rituals, each of the chakras, and then you have mantras.

[00:30:52] Deepak: Mantra means instrument of the mind, man means mind. It's the origin of the word English word, human [00:31:00] man, woman. So thinking beings, mantra is an instrument of the mind that takes you beyond the. Yantra is a visual intention. You visualize what you want when you combine mantra yantra and tantra, then you manifest.

[00:31:19] Deepak: It's not the law of attraction, which is all mental in my view. Silly. 

[00:31:23] Hala: So shock is a super interesting to me. 

talk to us about what shoppers are exactly 

[00:31:29] Hala: And there's seven of them. So maybe you can kind of walk us through what they are. Yeah. 

[00:31:35] Deepak: Just wild ago. I did anyway, cross a junction points between the spirit and the body mind. That word chakra means wheel and the wheel of awareness. And so they are in your body along the spine, but metaphors, and by putting your attention on these different places and practicing the mantra, the [00:32:00] yantra and the tantra you begin to manifest, what is it associated with?

[00:32:05] Deepak: Post-stroke so the first chakra is about survival and safety. The second chakra is sexuality and sensuality. The third chakra is ambition and success. The fourth is love and belongingness. The fifth is creative expression. The sixth is intuition and knowingness and the seventh is going beyond all of them.

[00:32:28] Deepak: Nice of the fear of death, transcendence, and finding who you are. So when all these chakras are aligned, then you basically are fulfilled, which means you have abundance at all levels. Not just, 

[00:32:45] Hala: I love that. Awesome. Well, as we start to wrap up this interview, Deek Fox, thank you so much for your time. We always ask our guests the same couple of questions at the end, and then we do some fun stuff at the end of the year.

[00:32:56] Hala: So what is one actionable thing my young and proctors can [00:33:00] do today to be more profiting tomorrow, one actionable thing they can do, uh, 

[00:33:05] Deepak: ask yourself what would I do if I had all the money and all the time in the world, and then who would benefit and then go 

[00:33:13] Hala: for it. I love that. And what is your secret to profiting?

[00:33:19] Hala: Don't 

[00:33:19] Deepak: worry about the profit, worry about how you can help other people. The fastest way to be successful is to make other people successful. I 

[00:33:27] Hala: love that. Amazing. And then my last question to you as my father was also an immigrant who became a doctor and was successful, not as successful as you, but you really lived the American dream.

[00:33:40] Hala: And I would love for you to give some advice to someone. Immigrant listeners about how they can succeed as an immigrant being different than other people. And just some insight given all of your successes. 

[00:33:53] Deepak: Immigrant means you bring an unique culture to this country. And actually the best [00:34:00] way to be successful is to have maximum diversity work with people who have bring maximum diversity to your team.

[00:34:08] Deepak: Especially if you're an entrepreneur, maximum diversity of race of gender or nationality of, um, education, then shared vision, have the same vision together. And then support each other emotionally and spiritually like a good soccer team. And then you'll be successful. If you're only thinking about yourself, you can't be successful, hard work, driving ambition.

[00:34:36] Deepak: Exact implants will make you successful by the time you are, you probably have some kind of disease and stress and you know, you'd be miserable. So do it right. 

[00:34:48] Hala: And where can our listeners go to learn more about you and everything that you do? 

[00:34:52] Deepak: Deepak chopra.com. And we have a very wonderful site called never alone.love.

[00:34:58] Deepak: It helps [00:35:00] young teens who are contemplating suicide, which is the second most common cause of death in this country. And so we are creating an ecosystem to help teens naturally go beyond depression, but experienced joy. So Deepak chopra.com and never alone dot. 

[00:35:17] Hala: Awesome. Thank you so much for your time today.

[00:35:20] Deepak: Thank you. Holla.